Official response from Kanz ul Huda regarding the speculative threads on the debate between Pir Saqib Shami Sahib and Dr. Zakir Naik
In response to the recent threads with regards to the aforementioned matter, Kanz ul Huda would like to clarify and outline the whole issue in order to avoid public confusion and speculation.
Approximately two months ago the Ullema of India, who have substantial links to the religious community in Karachi, asked Pir Saqib Shami Sahib to refute in written form Dr. Zakir Naik’s argument on the issue of Yazeed.
Pir Saqib Shami Sahib responded to the challenge and submitted a pamphlet on 10th August 2008 to the Ullema in Karachi detailing the thorough refutations on Dr. Naik’s opinion on Yazeed. The pamphlet included extensive rebuttals that discredited Dr. Naik’s arguments and exhorted him to either repent from making grossly false arguments on Yazeed or submit a written refutation to Pir Saqib Shami Sahib’s response. The pamphlet was posted by the Ullema of Karachi to Khutbate Zakir Naik Karachi and receipt of this pamphlet and it being forwarded to Dr. Naik was confirmed by the organisation on 17th August 2008
After no response was received by Dr Naik, the Ullema of Karachi insisted that Pir Saqib Shami Sahib challenge Dr Naik to a debate in order to quell his growing arrogance which has led him to openly challenge scholars to a debate on the issue of Yazeed. On 24th September 2008 Pir Saqib Shami Sahib wrote to the Ullema of Karachi stating that he is ready to debate Dr. Naik provided that two conditions are met, as follows:
1) The Shari’at-e-Munazzara must be negotiated by both parties. This involves the debate proceeding according to the classical Salf us-Saliheen method of debating and not according to Dr. Naik’s modern equivalent, whereby one speaker delivers his arguments at length followed by a lengthy rebuttal by the other speaker, followed again by a question and answer session; and
2) Dr. Naik, when quoting from the Hadith or classical texts, must have the source (i.e. the hadith), at hand, read in Arabic without the i’rab (i.e. the fatha, damma and kasra), and not simply mentally repeat the chapter and verse reference in English.
As yet no response has been received.
In late October, Pir Saqib Shami Sahib is Inshallah going to Pakistan to deliver a series of lectures at both the International Azmat-e-Auliya Conference in Azad Kashmir and the Jashne Fareed in Pak Pathan Shareef. The Ullema of Karachi have insisted that Pir Saqib Shami Sahib publicly accept the challenge made by Dr. Naik during these talks. This, it is hoped, will notify the public about the challenge being accepted by the Ahl-e-Sunnah scholars.
As for the allegation that the threads were a public stunt, Pir Saqib Shami Sahib strictly ordered his mureeds to not mention anything regarding the potential debate until it became official. Kanz ul Huda has no knowledge of the identity of the mureed who is alleged to have spread the story. Furthermore, Kanz ul Huda is aware that Dr. Naik is in India; if indeed the debate does take place, it will do so in that country.
Kanz ul Huda will further publish information on this event if there is any progress or any changes.
Kanz ul Huda
what Islam says:
“Pre-marital sex is absolutely forbidden in Islam, no matter whether it is with a girl-friend or a prostitute. Pre-marital sex is fornication (zina)”
Allah says:Do not go near adultery, .surely it is an indecency, and an evil way [of fulfilling sexual urge].(17:32) Fornication and adultery have severely been condemned in the saying of the Prophet and the Imams. In Islam, pre-marital sex is considered an immoral act against the rights of Allah and one’s own sexual organs.
Pre-marital sex is a sin punishable by the Islamic court. If an unmarried man and an unmarried woman are found guilty of fornication in an Islamic court, their punishment will be as the following:The woman and the man who fornicate scourge each of them a hundred whips; and in the matter of God s religion, let no tenderness for them seize you if you believe in God and the Last Day; and let a party of the believers witness their punishment.(24:2) If the unmarried man or woman commit fornication more than once, then they will be punished three times by hundred wipes, and if they are proven guilty for the fourth time, then they will be put to death. (As for adultery, its punishment is even more severe because married persons have no excuse, whatsoever, to commit adultery. The shari’ah says that married persons guilty of adultery should be stoned to death)
|Name||Ahmed Raza Khan|
|Main interests||Aqeedah, Fiqh, Tasawwuf|
|Notable ideas||Love of Holy Prophet|
|Influenced by||Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani, Rumi, Shami, Shah Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehlavi, Moulana Fazl-e-Haqq Khayrabadi|
|Influenced||Crores of Sunni Muslims in the indian sub continent|
Ahmad Raza Khan (1856-1921) was a Sunni Muslim scholar and sufi from Bareilly, a city in Northern India. He was a great writer, authoring nearly 1,000 books and monographs of varying lengths in Arabic, Persian and Urdu. He was a follower of Hanafi jurisprudence. His “magnus opus” is his fatawa Ridawiyya which comprised of 40 Volumes.
Ahmad Rida Khan was born in 1272 AH (1856 CE) into a family of Alims (legal scholars). His father, Mawlānā Naqī Áli Khān, was an alim of his time. His mother named him Amman Miyān. He studied Islamic sciences mainly under the tutelage of his father. He undertook the traditional dars-e nizami course under his father’s supervision and thereafter was largely self-taught. He did not proceed to take a formal course at a dar al-ulum.
At the age of 14, Ahmad Raza, was given the responsibility of writing Fatawa (written answers to Islamic legal problems). It was through this path of life that he communicated to the masses to be steadfast to mainstream Islam – The Ahle-sunnah wal Jama’at. At this time there were many Pirs (Islamic Holy men) throughout northern India and Kashmir, each with their own dedicated group of followers. Most of these known Pirs and Saintly men were very impressed with the teachings (The Ahle-sunnah wa Jama’at) of Imam Ahmad Raza al-Qaadiri and looked at him as their role model and security against the corrupt cults that emerged within Islam.
At 21 he received the blessing of one of the most outstanding Pir’s of the area and sent him out to make Sufi’s from anyone worthy. At 22 years of age while on Hajj with his father, he received many honours from some of the Sufi teachers of his time. Hajj was a turning point in his life. It inspired Imam Raza Khan to make followers throughout India and impart his teachings and knowledge on them. During his lifetime he wrote over 1000 books.
Aĥmed raza studied many sciences and fiqh (jurisprudence) particularly in the Hanafi school. He earned many authorizations to teach — by his own affirmation, the most important one was from the Mufti of Makkah, Shaykh Ábd ar-Raĥmān as-Sirāj ibn Ábdullāh as-Sirāj. This chain of transmission is claimed to reach back to Abu Hanifah.
Aĥmed Raza Khan took the Qadiri path and was initiated in that Sufi order by the Noble Sufi Master, Sayyid Khatimul-Akaabir Sha Ale-Rasul Ahmadi al-Husaini al-Qaadiri Barkaati of Mārahra (a town in northern India). He dedicated many tracts to the love of [[Aaqa Salal Laho Alaihe-wasalam], as is evident in his writings and endeavors.
In 1904 he founded a school, the Madrasa Manzar al-Islam. The position of chief administrator of this school was later to become a hereditary one within the Riza family for the next four generations. Raza died in 1340 AH (1921 CE), at the age of 65.
He had many ijazahs (certificate of authority, authorization) in Hanafi fiqh including one from the Muftī of Makkah, Shaykh abd ar-Rahmān as-Siraj ibn Abdullāh as-Siraj (The Master of the Kaba or place of hajj). This chain of transmission reaches Imām Abū Hanifah in twenty seven links and in further four to Aaqa Salal Laho Alaihe-wasalam.
He took the Qadiri path and was initiated in that Sufi order by Allama Sayyid Shah Aale Rasool Hussaini Qadri Barkati Al-Hanafi ( Student of Allama Abdul Aziz Mohaddith e Dehalwi Al-Hanafi ) of Mārahra (a town in northern India) when he turned 21 years of age. He was a great lover of the Prophet Muhammad as is evident in his writings and endeavors. He was also a great poet who has to his name many and verses in Arabic, Persian and Urdu. The anthology of his Urdu and Persian verse is presented in a slim volume with two parts and named: ‘Hadayiq e Bakh’shish’ meaning ‘Gardens of Salvation’.
He also made several poems about Aaqa Salal Laho Alaihe-wasalam such as Lam Yati Nadhiruka Fi Nadharin (in Arabic Urdu, Hindi, and in Persian) and Zamin-o-Zaman which can be found in Ĥadāyiq e Bakh’shish.
Some famous books of Ahmad Raza: 1- Fatawa Radhvia (12 volunes) 2. Husamul Harmain 3. Fatawa Harmain 4. Addaulatul Makkiah 5. Fatawa Africa 6. Ahkame Shariat 7. Subhanussubbuh 8- Al-Amno-wal-ola 9- Dawamul Aish 10- Al Mohajjatul-Motamnah 11- Kiflul Faqihil Fahim 12- Alsamsaam 13- Samsamul Haidari 14- Saiful Mustafa 15- Maqale- Urafa 16- Badrul Anwar 17- Fauze Mobeen 18- Moine Mobeen 19- Alkalimatul Mulhama 20- Al-Aalamul -Aalam 21- Tadbeer Falaho Najateo Islah 22- Munabbehul Munia 23- Saltanete Mustafa 24- Nutque Hilal 25- Nafi-ul-Fai 26- Almobeen Khatamul Mobeen 27- Raddur Rafza 28- Kaifare Kufre Aarya 29- Kashful Illa 30- Risala Dar Ilmi Muthullath 31- Risala Dar Ilmi Takseer 32- Risala Jabro Muqabila 33- Risala Fi Ilm-il- Jafar 34- Taaje Tauqeet 35- Al Nahiul- Nameer 36- Hashia Usule Taba’ee 37- Al- Matrus Sayeed 38- Kanzul Iman 39- Hadaique- Bakhshish 40- Khalisul Itqad 41- Muneerul- Ain 42- Al Istimdad 43- Khatmul Nabuwah 44- Jiddul Mumtar 45- Tamheede Iman etc.
It is found that Ahmad Raza had proficiency in more than fifty branches of knowledge Arab scholars like Shaykh Ismail bin Khalil & Shaykh Musa Ali Shami while commenting on his reputation and his knowledge, Dr. Jamil Jalibi, Vice Chancellor, Karachi University (Pakistan) said:
“Mawlana Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi was a Jurist, scholar, Naa’tia poet, an observer of Islam. His crowning scholarship can be imagined by the fact that he had knowledge of various sciences and humanities. He left behind more than a hundred booklets.”
Once, Sir Zia al-Din, a famous mathematician, was in a predicament with regards to part of his research in a mathematical field which meant he had to go to Berlin (Germany) to seek a solution to an intricate problem. It so happened that a certain Mawlana from the famous Aligarh University advised Sir Zia al-Din to visit Ahmad Raza to seek a solution for his mathematical problem. But, Sir Zia al-Din, not sounding very confident said, “What will an ordinary Mawlana like Mawlana Ahmed Raza be able to solve? He hasn’t even gone out of his city to gain knowledge, so it is obvious that his knowledge is very limited.” Nevertheless, after some convincing, he agreed to visit Bareily.
When he arrived in Bareily , he immediately went to Ahmad Raza. Presenting the intricate mathematical problem to Ahmad Raza he said, “I am now going to Germany. I will come back for the answer, that is, if you do manage to solve it.” As he was speaking, Ahmad Raza was busy writing and listening to him at the same time. As Sir Zia al-Din was about to leave, he handed him a sheet of paper. When Sir Zia al-Din read what was written on this paper, he realised that it contained the solution to his mathematical problem that had him so confused. Sir Zia’ al-Din, was later recorded to have said the following about Ahmad Raza:
“He was an un-assuming man of pleasant manners and morals, had deep insight in mathematics, although he was not formally educated by a teacher. It was an inner gifted inherent knowledge. My query pertained to a theory of knotting problems of mathematics, but his manner and explanation was spontaneous as if he had already carried out a research in it. Now, there is nobody so well-versed in India. Such a scholar, I think, there is none. Allah has bestowed upon him such a knowledge, that is amazing. His insight in the fields of mathematics, euclid, algebra and timings is astonishing. A mathematical problem that I could not solve despite my best of efforts, this learned man explained in a few moments.”
He was so much effected by Ahmad Raza that he became a true Muslim with a beard on his face.[dubious ] .
Imam Aĥmed Razaā’s spiritual and religious involvements seemingly encompassed his life. However, he was also a self-taught scientist in many fields and a mathematician. He acted upon his sincere belief of the Quran and Hadith mentioning that Islam and science are intertwined within each other. He wrote several treatises on several scientific fields. .
During the period of the Indian Khilafat Movement, Gandhi was advised that he should meet with Aĥmed Riđā. When he was told that the Gandhi wished to meet and speak to him, Aĥmed Riđā said, “What would he speak about? Religion or worldly affairs? If it is worldly affairs, what can I partake in, for I have abstained from the world and have no interest in it.” (Al Mizaan, p. 335)
01. Nothing with photos of living objects should be near me when my Ruh (Soul) leaves.
02. Recite Sura Yaseen and Sura Ra’ad beside me.
03. Recite Durood in abundance.
04. Keep those who are weeping away from me.
05. Give my Ghusl according to the Sunnah.
06. Either Mawlana Haamid Raza or Allamah Amjad Ali should perform my Janaza Salaah. (radi Allahu anhum)
07. Do not delay my Janazah.
08. When taking my Janazah, recite “Kaabe ke Badru Duja”.
09. Do not read anything in my praise.
10. Place me softly in the grave.
11. My grave should be dug according to my height.
12. My Kafan should be according to the Sunnah.
13. The food of my Fatiha must be given to the poor.
14. Haamid Raza must give a fair share of everything to Chothe Mia (Huzoor Mufti Azam Hind). If not, my Rooh will be displeased. (radi Allahu anhum)
15. All of you must remain steadfast on my Deen. Do not leave the path of Shariah. Stay on the Deen on which I was.
Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian, claimed to be the promised Messiah and Mahdi awaited by the Muslims. These claims proved to be extremely controversial among Muslims and he was branded as a heretic and apostate by many religious scholars of the time, including Ahmed Rida. To prove his point, when Ahmed Rida visited Mecca and Madina for pilgrimage in 1905, he prepared a draft document entitled “AlMotamad AlMustanad” (The Reliable Proofs) for presentation to the eminent scholars of Mecca and Madina-E-Pak. Ahmed Raza collected opinions of the Ulama of Hejaz and compiled them in a compendium written in Arabic language with the title, Husam al Harmain (The Sword of two sanctuaries), a work containing the thirty-three Ulamas’ thirty -four verdicts (20 Meccan and 13 Medinese Ulama). The overall import of this work was that Ghulam Ahmad’s beliefs were blasphemous and tantamount to apostasy..
Student’s students are too numerous to number, some of the most famous in Pakistan include Muhaddith-e-Azam Pakistan Allama Sardar Ahmad Qadri and Shaykh-ul-Qur’an Allama Abdul Ghafoor Hazarvi.
Jis ne baatil ke sir ko juka diya. Uus Sher-e-Bareilly pe Lakho Salaam.
Haroon, M The World of Importance of Imam Ahmad Raza Kazi Publications, Lahore 1974
Dotting GT Road, away from the hustle and bustle of Chandigarh and somewhere between Ludhiana and Ambala, lies the dusty town of Sirhind that holds within itself important pages of Indian history book. Sirhind is mostly known among Muslims through Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi, the famous Sufi of the Naqshbandi order who was conferred the title of Mujaddid Alif-sani.
Mujaddid, in Islamic tradition, refers to a person who, Muslims believe, is sent by God in the first half of every century of the Islamic calendar.
As it says in the hadith: “Allah shall raise for this Umma at the head of every century a man who shall renew (or revive) for it its religion” (Sunan Abu Dawud)
The Mujaddid’s objective is to revive Islam, remove from it any extraneous elements and to restore it to its pristine state. A Mujaddid might be a caliph, a founder of a sufi order, a saint (wali), a prominent teacher, a scholar or some other kind of influential person.Usually all those who are considered to be the Mujaddid may not compulsory that they claim. They can be recognize by their work for Islam and its revival. [Wikipedia]
Mujaddid Alif-sani would mean reviver of Islam in the second millennium. Even though his name was familiar, I never knew the exact location of Sirhind till a friend I was visiting in Chandigarh told me about it. It was the place where Ahmed al-Faruqi was born on the day of Ashura, the 10th of Muharram in the year 971 Hijri or 1564 AD.
He received his knowledge and education through his father and through many shaikhs in his time. He made progress in three tariqats: Suhrawardiyya, Qadiriyya, and Chistiyya. He was given permission to train followers in all three tariqats at the age of 17 years. He was busy in spreading the teachings of these tariqats and in guiding his followers, yet he felt that something was missing in himself and he was continuously searching for it. He felt an interest in the Naqshbandi Sufi Order, because he could see by means of the secrets of the other three tariqats that it was the best and highest. His spiritual progress eventually brought him to the presence of the Ghawth and Qutb of his time, ash-Shaikh Muhammad al-Baqi, who had been sent from Samarqand to India by the order of his shaikh, Muhammad al-Amkanaki. He took the Naqshbandi Order from the shaikh and stayed with him for two months and some days, until Sayyidina Muhammad al-Baqi opened to his heart the secret of this tariqat and gave him authorization to train his murids in the Order. [Wikipedia]
A high point of Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi’s life was his confrontation with Akbar and then with his successor Jahangir. Things came to such a pass that he was incarcerated in the Fort of Gwalior for three years. Eventually, he was freed by the Emperor and went back to preaching in Sirhind where he died in 1624 AD. He is largely credited to have led the revival of Islam in India in the 16th-17th century. However, some scholars have criticized his role saying that he steered the intellectual discourse away from the liberal dogma during the times of Akbar and Jahangir. Others have criticized him for his alleged role in the assassination of Guru Arjan Dev, the fifth Guru of Sikhism, in 1606 at the hands of Jahangir who suspected Arjan Dev of helping his rebellious son, Khusrau.
The entrance to his shrine is imposing and a mosque is situated adjacent to the shrine. The plaque at the top of the main gate reads:
bismillah ar rahmaan ar rahiim
laa ilaahaa illalaah muhammad rasuul allah
mazaar puranvaar Hazrat Imam Rabbani Mujaddid Alifsani Sheikh ahmed Faruqui Naqshbandi Sirhindi rahmat ullah alaihu
It roughly translates into:
In the name of Allah, Most Magnificent, Most Merciful
There is no God but Allah and Mohammad is His Messenger
The illuminated mausoleum of Hazrat Imam Rabbani Mujaddid Alifsani Sheikh ahmed Faruqui Naqshbandi Sirhindi (may Allah have mercy upon him)
The plaque also tells us that the construction was done in 1925 AD which is not is fairly recent. As it is the case with Taj Mahal the mausoleum of Sheikh Ahmed Sarhind is also built in two stories. A demo grave at the top and the actual grave at the bottom.
One of the interesting sights at the mausoleum is this intricate marble work made colorful by wish-threads tied by the devotees. For every wish they solicit through Sheikh, the devotees tie a thread. Today Sirhind Sharif receives many of its visitors from other parts of North India who are going to Ajmer Sharif for the annual Urs and stop at Sirhind along the way. The population of Muslims is minuscule in Punjab and a large percentage consists of immigrant workers from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar.
Quite close to the dargah of Sheikh Ahmed Sirhindi stands Fatehgarh Sahib Gurudwara and holds an exalted status in the eyes of Sikhs. It is the place where the two younger sons of Guru Gobind Singh were bricked alive.
After the heroic death of two elder sons of Guru Gobind Singh, in the battle of Chamkaur, on December22, 1704 his two younger sons, namely, Zorawar Singh and Fateh Singh were done to death, by being bricked alive in the fort of Sirhind on December 28, 1704 by the order of the tyrant Nawab Wazir Khan. Mata Gujri, grandmother of the two Sahibzadas expired due to the shock of brutal murder of her two grand children. A Hindu Philanthropist Dewan Todar Mal cremated three dead bodies with the help of other devotees of the Guru. He purchased the land by paying gold coins to the muslim Zamindar named Atta. Here stands the Gurdwara Jyoti Swarup. A big hall with a seating capacity for 5,000 persons has been recently constructed. It has been named Dewan Todar Mal Hall. [All About Sikhs]
Sirhind, like many other places of historical importance dotting North Indian landscape has been largely forgotten but will feature prominently whenever we look back into the past.
As salaatu was salaamu ‘alayka Ya Sayyidina Ya Rasulullah (Salla Allahu ‘Alayhi wa Sallam)
As salaamu ‘Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakaatuhu
Some people say we should unite with the Wahabies/Salafies, Deobandis and Shia. They say “it’s only a small difference”, “they read namaaz and have a beard”, etc.
These people should read Imam Ahle Sunnah AlaHazrat’s (Rahmathulahi Ta’ala alay) brilliant answer regarding the issue of associating with the ‘misled’.
To associate with the misled is dangerous and can be very destructive. There is a great chance of you also becoming misled.”
Sayyidina RasoolAllah (sall’Allahu Ta’ala alayhi wa’sallam) states:
Keep them (misled) far from you, keep yourself far from them, so that they may not mislead you and put you into disarray (Fitnah). (Sahih Muslim, Vol 1, p.73, Hadith no.4)
One who depends on his desires indeed depends on a big liar. It is said:
The Nafs (desire) is a big liar when it swears an oath. So how great a liar will the Nafs be when it does not fulfil its promises.
It is narrated in a Sahih Hadith Sharif, that when Dajjal will appear, some people will set only to watch him just for the sake of fun. They will say, “We are strong on our Din and he will not mislead us.” When they will see Dajjal, he will mislead them and convert them.
Another Hadith Sharif states, “Those who keep friendship with the Kuf’far (and misled) do indeed belong to their community.”
Imam Jalal al Din al Suyuti (Rahmathulahi Ta’ala alay) said that once a man could not recite the Kalimah before his death because he continuously used to be in the company of the misled (Shia).
If this is the condition and conclusion of sitting in the company of those who insult the Sahaba, then what will be the state of those who associate with the Wahhabi, Deobandi and Qadiyani? They are not only insulting the Sahaba and the Ahle Bayt, but even the integrity of Sayyidina RasoolAllah and the Almighty Allah.
Wal Hamdu Lillah rab il ‘Aalameen
Here We Have attepmted to bring down some of the Opinions which examines the authenticity ,relevancy and Importance of Staement of Dr.Israr Ahmad that Hazrat ali Led the Prayer while Intoxicated and he Committed mistake. Unreferenced Quotes By: Imran From which hadith collection did he get the words ” Sharaab jin ki gutthi mei pari thi woh to itni baat par chorne wale nahin the”?
What does that imply and who is he posibly implicating?
Preceeded by that he said about surah 2 verse 219, he states “toh bohut se loagon ne to sharab ussi waqt tark kardi,ishara pa gaiye”
How true is the following? With reference to History By:Imran
According to the History of Arabia, the first man who abandoned wine in the pre-Islamic period was Walid b. Mughira who visualized its harms. Another report mentions the name of Qais b. Asim. Some other persons who avoided drinking wine before the advent of Islam were:
Muqis b. Sababa, ‘Abdul Muttalic-the grand father of our Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), Abu Talib-father of Hadrat ‘Ali (Allah be pleased with him), Qusayy b. Kilab, Warqa b. Naufal-the nephew of Hadrat Khadija (Allah be please with her)-Shaiba b. Rabi’a and ‘Abbas b. Maradas.
It is reported that people said to ‘Abbas b. Maradas, “Why don’t you drink wine while it increases warmth? ” He replied, ” I am not going to hold my ignorance in my hand and put it into my stomach, nor do I like to be the leader of a people in the morning and turn to be a foolish one in the evening.” These words are of a man who lived in the age of Ignorance and had great regard for reason and nobility. He did not like lowliness and insanity. What a wisdom which these words impart! Is there any soul to receive exhortation?
In the similar way, the prominent Companions of the Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), like Hadrat Abu Bakr, Hadrat ‘Uthman and Hadrat ‘Ali (Allah be pleased with them) abstained from drinking wine during the pre-Islamic period. Hadrat ‘Uthman (Allah be please with him) was asked why he had not touched alcohol even during his pre-Islamic life. His answer was, “al-Khamr ‘robs’ the mind totally; and I have not yet seen anything which when entirely ‘robbed’ or curtailed will come back in its original intact form”. Another contemporary of Hadrat ‘Uthman (Allah be pleased with him) refused to drink wine. He said, ” I refuse to consume that which consumes my mind.”
So Siddique e akbar,hadrat uthman and both the father and grandfather of Hadrat Ali ((Radi Allah Anhum ajmaeen) did not drink wine even during pre islamic era despite it being permissable,due to them thinking that it no good and harmful but Ali (Alahe Salam) is accepted as having indulged in getting intoxicated to the extent that even salaah(standing in front of Allah)gets corrupted?
What Imam Tirmidhi himself classifies as gharib we try to justify and authenticate by making excuses as to how Hadrat Ali would not be sinful (as it would have been mubah etc etc),bearing in mind that such a substance was disliked by the Prophet (SalAllaho Alahi WaAlehi Wasalam) and others too and alot of sahaaba had totally stopped after verse of surah baqarah being revealed.
Why do you think that classical mufassirs like,razi,baydawi, qurtubi even ibn kathir and even modern ones like pir karam shah al azhari have not mentioned Hadrat Ali by name in regards to this incident in the respective tafseers?
Any such narration that does not befit the stature of RasoolAllah or his Ahle bayt should really be put to one side,not
given precedence over their reality!
Aslamu alikum… by :Sag-e-Darbar-eJilani
So Many Versions
….If he can find one narration with Hazrat Ali’s name, why cant he find the other narrations which do not mention hazrat Ali. It’s deliberate on his part not to mention other narrations. If we as layman find so many different version of the same event, then he is supposedly called a “Scholar” . Perhaps the difference lies in the fact that we alhamdolillah are the true Shia’ane Ali and he is a salafi full of hatred for Ahle Bait Dr.Israr’s defending himself . By:Abdul Hamid After listening to his defensive statement, i think Dr israr is trying pulling a wool over our eyes!, he has qoutes sources suchs sunan abu dawud, ibn katheer, at tabiree, and the great khaarji and ghustaakh Albaani but we do agree that the hadith is in sunan tirmizi, it does at no point mention Imam Ali (Radi Allah Anhu) as the person who leads the prayer! so the question remains on what basis did he have the nerve to mention this on tv? knowing it may lead to uproar!
Many hadith that have been gathered were transmitted by the khwaarij and those that hated Imam Ali such as those from shaam which was under the umayyad control during its time, even buhkhari has certain hadith that were tranmittted from them aswel.
In the final part of his statement he says he has love for Imam Ali(Radi Allah Anhu) and had no intention of insulting him or his honour, well uve done exactly that.
Abdul Karim Qadiri
I think the only name he is worthy of, is Ashrar, not Israr. For Ashrar is more suitable since it means plural of Shar (evil), i.e Dr. Evil or Ashrar in arabic, whichever you want.
Nasibi is supposed to be for the ones who have implicit “Bugz” towards Moula Ali (as), as those who have an explicit “Bughz” are out right Munafiqs, as per the Sahih Hadith narrated by Imam Muslim.
But if leave this Jahel Nasibi with an explicit “Bughz” of Moula Ali (as), we need to look at the reasons Nasibi’s are coming out of the closet nowadys.
Remember, with this particular Nasibi who poses as a leader because he grew a beard and can read Arabic texts, (yes thats it) (he reads some arabic tafsir and it makes him seem knowledgable instead of a reciter!! to some!!!), insisted on going out of his way to show how happy he needs to display himself and his family, in the same day where the Blood of Ahlul Bayt was shed, where the heads of the sons of the Rasoolullah -alahi assalam- were on the sands seperated from the bodies, on the day where the daughters of Rasoolullah -alayhi assalam- were tied up in chains to the donkeys and dragged with their faces being exposed, after no one had seen them.
The day where the Nasibi Kufr had plotted for long to take revenge from Iman and Islam.
Just like my Shaykh said: “For when Yazid bin Mouwiya and his clan could no longer stick their dagger in the heart of Islam itself, they stuck it in the heart of Rasoolullah instead” sallallahu alayhi wa aaalihi wa sallam, by slaughtering and cutting up the blood and flesh of Rasoolullah = Imam Husayn.
This is a pattern, and is a trend. The New-Umawi’s, yet the very same old Nasibi’s are working relentlessly day and night to ensure that whatever is left over from the love and respect to Ahlul Bayt is gone.
I say whatever is left over, becuase there is a lot, a lot more about Ahlul Bayt that people like Dr. Ashrar Ahmad (dr Evil), the old and the neo Yazidi’s have suppressed, distorted, and destroyed.
It should serve as a wake-up call, for all those fooled by labels. Nowadays you have lots of sites and lots of forums and lots of people, that call themselves Sunni!!!, while indeed it is the very Sunnah, they are after to destroy.
They know they can do that to Moula Ali (as), and only a few people will object. Afterall, if some do, they can just label them as Shi’a, and dimish their credibility……., an old Yazidi Shaytani trick (if you remember).
They know tey can do that to Moula Ali, but we all know no body dares to bring up any Hadiths that are -for a change- authentic about the Yazid bin mouwiya and his line, nor can the Sunni’s ever bring Ahadiths about the Faza’el of Moula Ali, otherwise they will be accuesed of being “Shia” or they will be threatened that a rumor will spread calling them “Tafzili Shia”!!!. They must not name their Masajed, Masjid Ali, or Majid Imame Husayn, for then , they will be terrorized by being called Rafidi’s.
Then no matter how much Sunni’s show their genuine love and even Ishq to Hazrat Sayyidina Abu Bakr (radiyaAllah anhu) that will not be enough, because the Nasibi’s are not satisfied.
Their Bughz of Ahlul Bayt has blinded their eyes, blackened their hearts, and made their disgusting Nafs a source of Shar or Ashrar (evil). Their “Bugz” prevented them from understanding that the great Sahaba (ra) and Moula Ali (as) had a great understanding, and that he was their Moula, and they were his Khulafa. Their hateful Nafs and raging Shayateen in it, would not allow them to see that the gate to sacred knowledge was Moula Ali (as), a gate which all the sahaba (ra) recognized and realized ad benefited from including our glorious 5 Khulafa Rashidin (including Imame Hasan) (ra).
Those forums/sites defend people in the past wo taook it as a mission to curse Moula Ali(as), to give legitmacy to his murderer, and to those who shed the pure Prophetic Blood of the dearest and nearest to our Beloved Prophet of Islam, sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam.
They know they can slander Imam Ali, and the Ulama who are sons of Imame Ali, and any genuine lover of Imame Ali, because they have already poven that they can do and say whatever, and we will remain helpless. We will shy away from talking about Imame Ali, we will be intimidated from talking about the Offspring of Imame Ali, and we can never inform people of the true nature of the enemies of Imame Ali and Imame Husayn, for if you say Yazid bin Mouwiya committed Kufr, they will label you as radical, narrow-minded,… But if you label Imame Ali (who was rised from day 0, not day 1, day 0, by the Prophet himself, with the prophetic noor feeding him everyday) as drunk, who recited: ” O Kafiroon I worship what you worship”…., that is okay, that is documented, that exists in some books, that is stating a fact not a personal feeling, you see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you see that O Sunni’s!! or do you want me to spell it out!!
There are lots of things tht are documented and millions of things that exists in the books, and I bet you those Munifiqin would not want people to know half of that about Moula Ali, or about their own deviation/igorance in the real Sunnah, that can be auhentically substantiated-unlike their cheap attempts at Imame Ali and his Family.!
It is in fact the same pattern of Yazid bin Mouwia. If you examine first that before Yazid massacred Ahlul Bayt, he took a few steps:
1- He circulated a rumor that Imame Husayn is not really the son of Rasoolullah, he is the son of Ali. (against all texts, for all texts state that Rasoolullah said: Ibni= my son).
2- The reason for that, is to systematically diminish Imame Husayn in the eyes of the ignorant.
3- He circulated that Imame Husayn does not know the Deen (Just like Dr. Evil is saying that about Imame Ali).
4- Hence, if Imame Husayn does not know the Deen, then he violated the Deen and therefore must be killed by the sword of the Shairah!(exact statement of Ibne Taymiyyah)
5- If they were not from the Family, and they violated the Deen, let us bad mouth them, and invent new things and add them to them.
6- If we can bad mouth them, let us now curse them.
7- If we can curse them, let us make sure to erase anything good about them from the books, and teach people they are wrong.
8- If that is not enough, let us make it an official annoncement on the Minbar to curse Ali and his family every Friday before the Salat is called. (that went on for 80 years, i.e the cursing of Moula Ali in the Masajed of Muslims!!! for 80 long years, every Friday).
There is a sequence and things don’t happen suddenly..wake up, examine the pattern of Yazid bin Mouwia, and you can identify many of Yazid’s Kazzab khabees offspring today.
We have no doubt that at the end, Haqq will prevail, as Allah promised.. But the questions, where do you stand, adn what are you doing to give Nusrat to Al Haqq.
The Deen is being distorted in front of our eyes and minds. Wake up and stick to the true Ahlus Sunnah wal Jama’ah, may Allah give them His Blessings, Protect the Sunni Ulama of this time (like Huzoor Mufakkire-Islam, Sayyidi wa Murshidi syed Al-Ninowy), and protect our Ulama of Ahlus Sunnah and increase their Maqam all the time.
Ya Moula Ali
The Police and administrative atrocities against Muslim youth have not been Stopped despite Congress lead UPA governments several Claims to Please Muslims. It has been Found that arrest and detention of Muslim youths on the Pretext of terrorism is most easy and favourite work of Police administration.
The AmarUjala News 3rd June 2008 Agra Edition and Malyalam Manorma of the same date (from down-Up)
Recent Case of Illegal detention of Six Innocent Madarsa Students by Agra police is new story of the Same series.The Agra Police Picked these Six students belonging to Various distt of Kerala state , Studying in Darul Uloom Amjadia Ghosi Mau distt of U.P from Redfort area of Agra City and Kept them in Lockup.After Some time these Students who were Unaware about what was happening with them ,were Presented before Local Media Portraying as terrorist.
They were not allowed to Inform their Parents or teachers in Madarsa.Police Started their typical Interrogation but Could not find any thing related to their False Propganda.
Story did not finish here When Agra Police asked for Information from Kerala Police but Kerala Police acting Irresponsibly did not give Correct Information on time and Students Passed their five days from 30th May to 3rd June 2008 in Police Custody only on the basis of doubt.
It was the good Luck of them that Police got Clean Chit from all the Concerned deptt about these Innocent Youths and released them on fifth day i.e on 3rd June 2008.The Local Newspapers Covered the Incident Including Keralite Print and Electronic Media.
Member of Parliament T.K Hamza assured these Students in Delhi to raise the Matter before the government . The New Delhi office of Sunni Markaz, Calicut helped them in their release .
Translated from Malyali News Papers by MSO Media Cell.